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Chucks' Wagon BBQ
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 7:13 am    Post subject: Question for the caterers Reply with quote

To all of us who do catering, how much, per person or flat rate, would you charge some one for doing a pig roast when it is just the pig they are asking for?

I am just curious because one of the ladies I work with said that a friend of hers, who owns a business, was being charged $20 per person. And they guy is supplying just the pig. No condiments, paper goods or side salads.

We both agree he is getting ripped off
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on the size Hog they are getting and the amount of people. And I am in no way defending 20 per.But how many people and how big a Hog?

But hogs are expensive to cook. If you get a hog under 100lbs the cost is somewhere near 1.85 a lb. so lets say we get a 100lb hog. Thats 185 bucks for the pig. Another 30 bucks for charcole. Depreciation on your cooker. And a good 10-12 hours to cook.What is your time worth per hour? If this is also a serve you have to add onto that your time. And of course your clean up costs, Car wash ETC.


Your yield off of a 100lb hog is about 33% So you would get 33lbs or 99 sammies. Not really alot of meat for the money.

You can easily see that Hogs are way more expensive to cook than say butts. I am in the 8-9 dollar a lb range. But I have a day job so I am not looking to make a living out of it. And really only do them for friends, But did do 2 for parties last year.One was a wedding

Here's so Pics from the wedding











Well enough showing off!! Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is my price list. It is a bear to work up since price (pig price) and yield change with different wt pigs.

Habanero Hog
Roasted Pig Price List

Number of Servings Price Price per Serving
50 620.00 12.96
60 672.00 11.21
70 637.00 9.06
80 692.00 8.66
90 691.00 7.71
100 743.00 7.44
110 723.00 6.60
120 770.00 6.42
130 816.00 6.26
140 858.00 6.13
150 904.00 6.02
160 947.00 5.92
170 993.00 5.83
180 1,036.00 5.76


4/28/08

The columns don't line up very good......
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice Pics. Food looks really good
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan,

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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is what is on my website:

Chuck’s Wagon Pig Pickin’
$21 per person
50 Person Minimum

Whole Pig, smoked & roasted
Your choice of 4 sides
Rolls


From what I gathered talking to my co-worker, the guy just delivers the pig. He does not cook onsite.

I do not know if this is he day job or not.

There are other catering companies that I know and I would charge them $6 - $8 per person just for the pig, delivered and nothing else since it would be their catering job.

Seems like alot of "traditional" caterers out in the Lehigh Valley farm out the pig roasting part.

Their is also a farmer out here that will sell you the whole pig and rent you a Meadow Creek PR60. Here is there website:

http://www.pigroasting.net/about/index.html
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Call and ask Tom Christine to see what he would suggest. He does a lot of this, and is willing to help
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rag wrote:
Here is my price list. It is a bear to work up since price (pig price) and yield change with different wt pigs.

Habanero Hog
Roasted Pig Price List

Number of Servings Price Price per Serving
50 620.00 12.96
60 672.00 11.21
70 637.00 9.06
80 692.00 8.66
90 691.00 7.71
100 743.00 7.44
110 723.00 6.60
120 770.00 6.42
130 816.00 6.26
140 858.00 6.13
150 904.00 6.02
160 947.00 5.92
170 993.00 5.83
180 1,036.00 5.76


4/28/08

The columns don't line up very good......


Wow Ron, I like it. Haven't done the nubers yet but fairly close on a rough guess. How did you come up with this? And can I barrow it?
Did you use a sliding scale?
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chucks' Wagon BBQ wrote:

Whole Pig, smoked & roasted
Your choice of 4 sides
Rolls


Wow that's alot of sides isn't it? I would normally offer 2-3 depending on what they ask for. Do you get alot of roasts in your area? I get asked alot but as soon as I hit them with the price they go for the take out caterer's
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get alot of people that ask, but like you once they here the price, they usually do not call back.

I did not think that 4 sides were too much, but I have to compete w/ 4 other BBQ places for jobs and they offer less.

Have you heard of porchetta? I have been thinking of adding that to my caterring menu. That I might charge a premium for since there is alot of work that needs to go into it.
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chucks' Wagon BBQ wrote:
I get alot of people that ask, but like you once they here the price, they usually do not call back.

I did not think that 4 sides were too much, but I have to compete w/ 4 other BBQ places for jobs and they offer less.

Have you heard of porchetta? I have been thinking of adding that to my caterring menu. That I might charge a premium for since there is alot of work that needs to go into it.


Yea I have heard it once or twice. Laughing Laughing My wife is 100% Italian.
I make it alot around the house. What is your recipe, If your willing to share it.I don't do the whole Hog version.


I just do Fresh herbs and garlic. Roast the butt or even lion.(I prefer the loin so I can slice it paper thin on my slicer) And slice and serve. I usally make the Au Jus from the pan drippings and water. Pretty easy hit really. Add some sharp Provy and a fresh roll and I am all over it. Some prefer the broccoli raab but I don't but they are easy enough also, I saute in a pan with garlic,salt and pepper.Add some water to steep and let it go for a 10 mins.Walla
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mutha Chicken BBQ wrote:
rag wrote:
Here is my price list. It is a bear to work up since price (pig price) and yield change with different wt pigs.

Habanero Hog
Roasted Pig Price List

Number of Servings Price Price per Serving
50 620.00 12.96
60 672.00 11.21
70 637.00 9.06
80 692.00 8.66
90 691.00 7.71
100 743.00 7.44
110 723.00 6.60
120 770.00 6.42
130 816.00 6.26
140 858.00 6.13
150 904.00 6.02
160 947.00 5.92
170 993.00 5.83
180 1,036.00 5.76


4/28/08

The columns don't line up very good......


Wow Ron, I like it. Haven't done the nubers yet but fairly close on a rough guess. How did you come up with this? And can I barrow it?
Did you use a sliding scale?


I made up a spread sheet, but it didn't work out as good as I wanted. Got pissed and made another one. Laughing The one I use now uses the pricing schedule from two suppliers (one priced live wt,,,the other priced dressed wt), has entries for wt loss for butchering, wt loss for cooking, serving size wt, supplies, gas and mark up. This allows me to putz with the retail price and profit.
I can send you a copy, but it may need explanation on how to use.
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